The Woman Who Wouldn't Talk Talks With BuzzFlash

BUZZFLASH: Do you think that in their own minds -- Kenneth Starr and all these prosecutors who shared a similar religious and right-wing outlook felt that no matter what -- the ends justify the means?

MCDOUGAL: Absolutely.

BUZZFLASH: So they were entitled to...

MCDOUGAL: Oh, I was road kill. Do you think they cared one moment what happened to me? Or what they were doing when they were threatening my brothers, or Monica Lewinsky's mother, or any of those people that they threatened that they knew had not done anything? We were just like hitting a possum in the road, because the road led to saving America and the moral fiber of Americans. And they did not care one whit about us.

BUZZFLASH: So it didn't matter if innocent victims got destroyed in the process. They felt that the means justifies the end from your perspective, and that's the price that had to be paid to save America.

MCDOUGAL: That's exactly right. I don't think it mattered to them one bit what the means were, because the end was so important to them: that they win. That's always what happens to us, isn't it? You've read that -- be very careful, because you will become what you so hate. And that is I think exactly what happened to them. They became the liars. They became the ones that were breaking the law.

...Julie told the story of how she had adopted a child from Romania and she came close to losing that child over all of this. The OIC started investigating her adoption. And then they questioned her on whether or not she had been having inappropriate sexual contact with her daughter's boyfriend. All of the horror stories that we all knew were happening -- like I told you they had written my brother and told him they would charge him. And we know that Monica Lewinsky had the hardest time with her mother being brought in. And so Julie Hiatt Steele, in this very quiet way, began to tell the stories of how she had been coerced, how she had lost everything -- her home, her living -- people really began to listen. And you could have heard a pin drop in the courtroom.

Her book and this interview reveal the true heroines of Starr's religious right-wing war to bring down Clinton. You might want to buy the book.