Saturday, January 04, 2003

PAK Daily Times - United States is a leading terrorist state: Chomsky

Here’s a partial transcript of the interview that took place between Chomsky, SchNEWS, Mark Thomas and a collection of other British trouble makers.

There was a terrorist act, September 11th, very unusual, a real historic event, the first time in history that the west received the kind of attack that it carries out routinely in the rest of the world. September 11th did change policy undoubtedly, not just for the US, but across the board. Every government in the world saw it as an opportunity to intensify their own repression and atrocities, from Russia and Chechnya, to the West imposing more discipline on their populations.

The National Intelligence Council, which is a collection of various intelligence agencies, published a projection in 2000 called ‘Global Trends 2015.’ They make the interesting prediction that terrorism is going to increase as a result of globalisation. They really say it straight. They say that what they call globalisation is going to lead to a widening economic divide, just the opposite of what economic theory predicts, but they’re realists, and so they say that it’s going to lead to increased disorder, tension and hostility and violence, a lot of it directed against the United States.

They also predict that Persian Gulf oil will be increasingly important for world energy and industrial systems but that the US won’t rely on it. But it’s got to control it. Controlling the oil resources is more of an issue than access. Because control equals power.

Compared with the Vietnam War movement, this movement is just incomparably ahead now. This time there’s protest before the war has even got started. I can’t think of an example in the entire history of Europe, including the United States, when there was ever protest of any substantial level before a war.

The more protest there is the more tightening there’s going to be, that’s routine. When the Vietnam War protests really began to build up, so did the repression.

That Chomsky, he's a troublemaker.

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