Saturday, October 07, 2006

The Texas Gubernatorial Debate

In a short debate, little new was learned but it stayed interesting.

One intelligent debate watcher did switch from Strayhorn to Bell. Keep reading.

Democrats say that Bell easily won after throwing Nerf balls at the TV screen.

Musings was at the same party and agreed that Kinky helped Bell, did little for himself.

An Austin Democrat says the same, Bell and Perry were the best and Perry has his record to sink him.

Another undecided now leans to Bell.

Texas debate as a round of Jeopardy reveals Strayhorn the loser.

ABC - implies Strayhorn the real loser.

With Perry insisting on one short debate at the least watched time, the citizens of Texas are among the losers on this debate. A PBS station should stage another debate and let Perry skip it if he wants. Bell could easily win this with a few more debates.

Viewers with access to the Internet favored Kinky and Bell as big winners, Perry and Strayhorn losers. "I want to crack down on employers," said Democrat Chris Bell. "If they wouldn't hire them, we wouldn't be having this debate [on immigration]."

Another vote earned for Bell.

A disorganized Independent rant singled out the biased moderator and journalists as the losers.

Blue Star State blog is inaccessible now but I pulled this from Technorati:
This debate tonight was a debacle for all those participating except Chris Bell. He did the exact opposite. As the moderator said "He nailed it." Bell answered all questions smoothly, even the one line questions that none of the other's could answer correctly. He correctly named 1836 as the year the Alamo fell and knew that Texas has no term limits for the governor. Strayhorn didn't even know the name of the new president of Mexico, and Perry didn't know the interest rate nor the electricity cost for the Governor's Mansion. The choice is clear: the best candidates for young people are the Democrats.
Brains and Eggs: Bell beat'em like a pinata

We have videos, and did Kinky lose another vote?.

Someone liked Grandma in the debate.

Bell First and Kinky second, but close.

Bell captured another fence-sitter.

I am using Technorati and Google blog searches to try to get away from all the progressive blogs I know and get a variety of opinions. I am getting Independents but the Republicans aren't coming up. I have a feeling they all skipped it or feel that Perry and Strayhorn and Kinky, a different kind or Republican, lost. Or just maybe the GOP conservatives go to bed too early.

Lots more I haven't posted, some in Live Journals marked private but Technorati snoops into. The consensus is everyone hates Perry, Strayhorn didn't win any votes she didn't already have, Bell is smart but a snoozefest, Kinky has good points but....

Here is an online video of the complete debate for those who want to form their own opinion.

If the purpose of a debate is to solidify your base and convert new voters, Bell won hands down. Perry was smart to try to keep the debate away from viewers. A few conversions to Chris Bell, I saw no conversions to Kinky and Strayhorn but a few "Gawd help Texas, is this all the choices" comments. Technically no, but I am not pushing the Libertarian in this important decision.

If people are paying attention, Bell should go up, Strayhorn way down, Kinky down a bit.

Update: Bell performance may get a million in contributions.

MSM Roundup.

Next time have professionals run the debate.

Chron Texas politics blog.


rjnagle said...

Holy cow... a debate? When? Where? Was it even on TV in Houston?

I'm someone very interested in Texas politics....and I missed this debate.

I watched three hours of PBS TV yesterday...not a word of any debate.

You know what would be good: an online transcript of the debate!

Gary said...

I see I neglected to post this early Friday evening start time. You might catch a CSPAN repeat or if you have broadband there is a link above.

Oh well, I also didn't post the swearing in of Stanley in Pasadena, I think. Just in time for the Harrison - Stanley race to start again after $100,000 in court costs on just one side.

Gary said...

The Kinky site just took a comment on the debate I made, erased it, and signed my name to someone else's comment. Incompetence or typical practice of non-fawning comments?

Here is my comment:

Strayhorn - big loser, looked incompetent.

Perry - plastic hair, plastic smile, misleads about toll roads and his secret deal with Spanish developer.

Chris Bell - dull but knowledgeable, if you want a Democrat or a change.

Kinky - nervous, for if you want a really big change. I am nor sure people waiting to make up their minds were persuaded.

Strayhorn lost votes. Perry may have stayed the same as he kept his viewers away by scheduling the debate when he did. Bell picked up votes, Kinky kept his voters but may not have added any.

Channel 11 may repeat the debate tape.

kinky is awesome said...

I wish I could be the first blogger-for-Kinky to graciously concede that Bell won the debate hands down, but Ian and TheLongHaul and ExColl beat me to it.

Ian graciously said:

I think most Kinky supporters, myself included, had assumed that the question wasn't "if" Kinky would win the debate, but instead by "how much". Perry is the perfect punching bag, and Kinky seemed well equipped to run circles around the status quo politicians. Debates are glorified battles of the one-liner, and it seemed silly to think that the Kinky, the master of the one-liner who had 30 years experience being on stage, could somehow fumble on his biggest night. But he did. ... The fact that Kinky couldn't name a single black guy from Texas on his staff was rather embarrassing. The fact that Kinky looked like the cranky old redneck from the Hill Country didn't help. ... The fact that Kinky was forced to say, "I agree with Bell" on this and that only helped to make Bell look like the only grown-up on stage. ... I watched the debate in Dallas with some of my old Kinky friends. I must admit that I was shocked that Bell actually got some scattered applause. Obviously, the Kinksters groaned and laughed when Bell said, "I'm a serious man with a serious plan." But other than that awkward line, I'd say Bell did what he had to do. ... congrats to Team Bell for hanging in there and delivering on the one night that mattered the most.

TheLongHaul graciously said:

Bell did a great job. The thing that helped Bell the most, was time limits. We all know how boring he can be, and how he can go on and on, but the best thing that happened to him was time limits. He will probably benefit the most from the debates.... Kinky needed to come out strong and present himself as a valid candidate in order to break away from the pack. I don't think he did as well as he could have, but I don't feel he will lose many votes.

ExColl graciously said:

In my unbiased, professional/amateur opinion, the winner was clearly…. Chris Bell. ?!?! Yes, I said it. While I still support Kinky, I have to say he was not his normal self at the debate. Chris Bell, on the other hand proved that he was, despite contrary reports, alive. He did have the best line of the debate. When asked if he knew whether there were term limits for the governor, his response ( I don’t remember the quote, but it was very close to this): “That is the single best reason to vote for me. There are no term limits for Governor and our current Governor has said if he wins this election, he will run again.” Snap!... Kinky got in a few zingers, but nothing new if you have been following him. Frankly, I was disappointed. I saw him speak at the Student Union this week, and basically he said the same things. Kinky lost an opportunity, albeit, considering the timing of the debate, not a big one.

I would like to lend my voice to Ian and TheLongHaul and ExColl. Bell won the debate convincingly. Kinky fell short of my expectations, especially on questions which Kinky should have anticipated. Plus Kinky didn't help matters much with his post debate comments "Right now, I'm still voting for myself" and "Jesse Ventura convinced me I shouldn't be for a wall because ten years from now we might want to be getting out of here."

The war isn't over, but Bell won this battle decisively. Congratulations to team Bell. Enjoy your victory because we're gonna win in November!

Gary said...

The above comment was a pleasant surprise.

The Perry campaign blog, from what I could see without signing up for it, was typical "we make our own reality" BS. I was willing to sign up for Kinky's but to add my email to a Perry list - no thank you.

My conclusion, and the concensus of great majority of my blog searches, was that Strayhorn was the big loser. Then I go over to my parents who watched the debate and my Republican stepmother is still for Strayhorn and my Dad seems undecided between her and Chris Bell.